Chicago's 'Cloud Tax' Raises The Cost Of Streaming Videos
You wouldn't expect to pay a local tax when you stream a movie on Netflix, but Chicago has decided that such cloud-based services should be taxed just like tickets for live entertainment.
There was no debate or public hearing over the city's "cloud tax" — a 9 percent tax on streaming entertainment like Netflix and Spotify.
The city says that's because the tax isn't new and is actually a clarification — not an expansion of two taxes that have long been in effect. One is called the Personal Property Lease Transaction Tax, and the other is the Amusement Tax, which has traditionally been tacked onto tickets for concerts and sporting events.
But now just about everybody who pays to stream a video or television show will have to pay more.
Netflix reportedly plans to pass the tax the city will apply to cloud based services along to customers, like college student Luis Montalvo.
"It might not seem like a big deal because it's just Netflix, but what are we going to tax next?" he says. "I feel like that's going to open the door to start taxing Facebook at some point, which sounds ridiculous to me."
Facebook is not in the mix, but this tax will apply to paid subscriptions for streamed entertainment like TV shows, movies and digital music, and to so-called cloud-based services like the Multiple Listing Service that Realtors use. Brian Bernardoni with the Chicago Association of Realtors says that has raised lots of concern in his industry.
"We see this as akin to taxing a hammer each time you use it when you build a house," Bernardoni says.
The tax is expected to add about $12 million in revenue to a city struggling to fill a deep budget hole. Michael Reever with the Chicagoland Chamber of Commerce says Chicago has held the line on property and sales taxes, but putting a tax on cloud-based computer services is a nickel-and-dime approach.
"This kind of year-to-year, month-to-month kind of budget crisis management is not the way to go, and it certainly doesn't give businesses certainty in how they invest their money," Reever says.
In a statement, the city says its ruling brings companies using new technology in line with brick-and-mortar businesses. The city also promised exemptions for tech startups based on their revenue.
Bernardoni says regardless, there are plenty of people bothered by Chicago's approach.
"Tax policy is one of those things that not only people in the city of Chicago look at, but people across the country look at," he says. "And when we add new taxes, we add another cloud around the city saying this is not a good place to do business."
The cloud tax, already in effect, may have caught some off guard. But the high tech industry is already considering a legal challenge to Chicago's tax on streaming and database services.
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Go see a movie, and you'd expect to pay a local tax on your ticket. But stream it on Netflix, probably not. Some say charging a tax on web streaming services sets dangerous precedent. But the city of Chicago has done it, saying they are leveling the playing field between digital companies and brick-and-mortar businesses. Chicagoans are calling the 9 percent tax a, quote, "cloud tax." NPR's Cheryl Corley reports.
CHERYL CORLEY, BYLINE: There was no debate or public hearings over Chicago's 9 percent cloud tax. The city says that's because it isn't new and is actually a clarification, not an expansion, of two taxes that have long been in effect. One is called the personal property lease transaction tax - the other, the amusement tax, which has traditionally been tacked onto tickets for concerts and sporting events. But now just about everybody who pays to stream a video or television show will have to pay more, like college student Luis Montalvo.
LUIS MONTALVO: Currently, I'm catching up on "Orange Is The New Black."
(SOUNDBITE OF TV THEME SONG, "ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACK")
REGINA SPEKTOR: (Singing) The animals, the animals trapped, trapped, trapped 'til the cage is full.
CORLEY: Netflix reportedly plans to pass along the 9 percent tax the city will apply to streaming and cloud-based services to customers like Montalvo.
MONTALVO: It might not seem like a very big deal because it's just Netflix. But, you know, what are we going to tax next, you know? I feel like that's going to open the door to start taxing Facebook at some point, which sounds ridiculous to me.
CORLEY: Facebook is not in the mix. But this tax will apply to paid subscriptions for streamed entertainment, like TV shows, movies and digital music and to so-called cloud-based services, like the multiple-listing service that realtors use. Brian Bernardoni, with the Chicago Association of Realtors, says that's raised a lot of concern in the industry.
BRIAN BERNARDONI: We see this as akin to taxing a hammer each time you use it when you build a house.
CORLEY: The tax is expected to add about $12 million in revenue to a city struggling to fill a deep budget hole. Michael Reever, with the Chicagoland Chamber of Commerce, says Chicago has held the line on property and sales taxes. He calls the tax on cloud-based computer services a nickel-and-dime approach.
MICHAEL REEVER: This kind of, you know, year-to-year, month-to-month kind of budget crisis management is not the way to go. And it certainly doesn't give businesses a certainty in how they invest their money.
CORLEY: In a statement, the city says its rulings, which made streaming services and databases subject to those taxes, brings companies using new technology in line with brick-and-mortar businesses. The city also promised exemptions for startup tech companies based on their revenue. Bernardoni with the Realtors Association says regardless, there's plenty of people bothered by Chicago's approach.
BERNARDONI: Tax policy is one of those things that not only people in the city of Chicago look at, but people across the country look at. And when we add new taxes, we add another cloud around the city saying this is not a good place to do business.
CORLEY: The so-called cloud tax already in effect may have caught some off guard. But the high-tech industry is already considering a legal challenge to Chicago's tax on streaming and database services. Cheryl Corley, NPR News, Chicago. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.
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