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What Viktor Orbán's loss means for the future of global populism

NPR's Rob Schmitz speaks with Anne Applebaum of The Atlantic about what Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán's electoral loss means for the future of right-wing populist movements around the world.

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Rob Schmitz
Rob Schmitz is NPR's international correspondent based in Berlin, where he covers the human stories of a vast region reckoning with its past while it tries to guide the world toward a brighter future. From his base in the heart of Europe, Schmitz has explored Berlin’s techno scene, reported on the rise and fall of far-right rule in Poland, investigated Norway’s salmon farming industry, covered elections in the Netherlands, Hungary, Slovakia, Austria, Poland, the European Union and beyond, and patiently chronicled a 639-year organ performance in rural Germany.
Henry Larson
Michael Levitt
Michael Levitt is an assistant producer for All Things Considered. [Copyright 2025 NPR]

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