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'Illegal orders' and the investigation into Sen. Mark Kelly

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has threatened to have Sen. Mark Kelly court-martialed. We ask a former military lawyer if that's legal.

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Ailsa Chang
Ailsa Chang is an award-winning journalist who hosts All Things Considered along with Ari Shapiro, Mary Louise Kelly and Juana Summers. She landed in public radio after practicing law for a few years.
Lauren Hodges
Lauren Hodges is a producer for All Things Considered. She joined the show in 2018 after seven years in the NPR newsroom as a producer and editor.
Justine Kenin
Justine Kenin is an editor on All Things Considered. She joined NPR in 1999 as an intern. Nothing makes her happier than getting a book in the right reader's hands – most especially her own. [Copyright 2025 NPR]

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