A federal appeals court in New Orleans is reviewing whether 11 clinics that provide abortion in Texas must immediately close their doors because they don't comply with a state law requiring that they meet all the standards of an outpatient surgical center.

A three-judge panel heard arguments Friday for more than 90 minutes, first from the Texas solicitor general and then from a lawyer with the Center for Reproductive Rights, which is representing many of the Texas clinics. The questions from the judges centered mainly on what constitutes an "undue burden" when a woman is trying to get an abortion, and what fraction of Texas women would be affected.

Advocates say that about 20 clinics that perform abortions in Texas have already closed in advance of the law; if the court rules in Texas' favor, fewer than 10 clinics that provide abortion would remain in a state with a population of 26 million.

Both sides agreed that if the law is upheld, women in the Rio Grande Valley would have to travel more than 200 miles to San Antonio to get an abortion. But Jonathan Mitchell, the Texas solicitor general, said there was no good evidence that women weren't figuring out how to deal with that, and no evidence that if the abortion rate in Texas had fallen, that it was related to the law.

"An abortion law cannot be enjoined based on conjecture," Mitchell said. Judge Jennifer Elrod questioned him about a clinic's survey of 20 patients, presented at the trial in August. An expert testifying for the clinics said one patient surveyed said she did not get an abortion after the Texas law went into effect.

"He did not report she was unable to get it; he did not report she encountered an undue burden," Mitchell answered. "She could simply have changed her mind."

Supporters and opponents of Texas's controversial abortion law gathered Friday afternoon outside the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals in downtown New Orleans. Emily Horne (left) is a legislative associate with Texas Right to Life, a group that lobbied for the law.

Supporters and opponents of Texas's controversial abortion law gathered Friday afternoon outside the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals in downtown New Orleans. Emily Horne (left) is a legislative associate with Texas Right to Life, a group that lobbied for the law.

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Furthermore, patients in El Paso (where another clinic might close because it doesn't meet the standards of an outpatient surgical center) could just travel to New Mexico for an abortion, Mitchell added.

Stephanie Toti, with the Center for Reproductive Rights, argued on behalf of affected clinics such as Whole Woman's Health. She says lots of evidence was presented at the trial that women were facing numerous burdens exercising their constitutional right to an abortion. For example, a San Antonio clinic had offered gas cards and free bus tickets to women in the Rio Grande Valley who were seeking abortions, to help them travel north. But the patients told the clinic it wasn't just the distance and lack of money that made such travel difficult, but also problems with child care, getting time off work, and explaining to family why they needed to travel so far away.

Toti said a health outreach worker testified at the trial that women were experiencing obstacles to getting the procedure legally after clinics closed in the Rio Grande Valley. "She says she personally observed women turning to illegal means to get an abortion," Toti told the judges.

In a rebuttal, Mitchell called that testimony "vague," and said the worker couldn't give specific numbers of women doing that, and couldn't provide evidence that those choices stemmed from restrictions in the Texas law.

The three judges did not indicate when they would render their decision; but if they rule in favor of the state of Texas, the clinics would probably close immediately. The judges could also decide that some of the most isolated clinics could remain open, while others must close.

Federal district Judge Lee Yeakel ruled in August that the surgery center regulation had no health benefit and would place numerous burdens on any woman seeking an abortion, especially if she lived in the Rio Grande Valley or West Texas. Yeakel allowed the noncomplying clinics to remain open, but the state asked for an emergency motion to overrule Yeakel's decision and close them.

Sandy Jones (from left) of Houston, with Amelie Hahn and Michelle Colon, of Mississippi. Hahn and Colon are with Pink House Defenders, a group fighting for the last remaining abortion clinic in Mississippi.

Sandy Jones (from left) of Houston, with Amelie Hahn and Michelle Colon, of Mississippi. Hahn and Colon are with Pink House Defenders, a group fighting for the last remaining abortion clinic in Mississippi.

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Mitchell told the panel the state of Texas has a compelling interest in closing any clinics that it deems unsafe, and that's why the state sought an emergency motion to stay Yeakel's decision.

"If there is a Kermit Gosnell-type clinic in a state, and that's the last clinic in the state, I think everyone could agree that clinic could be shut down," Mitchell said, referring to a notorious doctor who performed abortions and was convicted of murder in Philadelphia last year.

Outside the courtroom, protesters carried signs.

Bethany Van Kampen, a recent law school graduate and board member of the New Orleans Abortion Fund, attended the hearing. She said it seemed that the judges were asking very hard questions of Toti.

"It's a bit discouraging," she said. "It felt very targeted. I felt our line of questioning was harder and more difficult and I think we tried to do our best."

Sandy Jones, an activist with Stop Patriarchy, traveled from Houston to attend. She said it seemed the judges had too narrow a focus.

"These are forces that are determined to criminalize every abortion, every woman, and make it inaccessible to every woman," Jones said. "And birth control, as we know, is not far behind. This is a war on women. This is a state of emergency."

Abortion opponents had also traveled from Austin and Fort Worth to listen.

"It's hard to say how this will go," said Emily Horne, a legislative associate for Texas Right to Life.

She said there was a need for Texas to seek this emergency hearing to shut down the noncomplying clinics right away. "It is a direct safety measure for the health and safety of Texas women, so we think that sooner is better to implement that," Horne said.

She said it was exciting to be there, and important for all states, not just Texas.

"Texas is definitely setting some precedents as far as what states are being allowed to pass," Horne added, "so there is a lot that does hinge on this."

This story is part of a reporting partnership between NPR, Houston Public Media and Kaiser Health News.

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Transcript

WADE GOODWYN, HOST:

This is WEEKEND EDITION from NPR News. I'm Wade Goodwyn.

Last year Texas passed a sweeping law to regulate abortion providers. It led to the shutdown of half of the state's 41 clinics. A federal appeals panel is now weighing the fate of those that remain. As several other states are trying to enforce similar laws, many are watching what happens in Texas.

Carrie Feibel, with Houston Public Media, attended the hearing at the Fifth Circuit in New Orleans.

CARRIE FEIBEL, BYLINE: Texas currently has 20 abortion clinics, but about a dozen don't comply with the new state law that requires them to meet the same standards as outpatient surgery centers. After some clinics sued, a federal judge in Austin struck down that requirement last month. The clinics kept operating, but Texas requested this emergency hearing to close them. That would leave only seven clinics in Texas that meet the standard, with an eighth under construction. And none are in the Rio Grande Valley or West Texas. The Texas solicitor general, Jonathan Mitchell, told the judges that women will still have access to abortion even if they have to travel farther. But the travel is disruptive, expensive and takes time, said Stephanie Toti. She's with the Center for Reproductive Rights and argued on behalf of the clinics.

Outside the court, Toti said the judges' questions had been tough.

STEPHANIE TOTI: It was a challenging argument. I remain hopeful that the court will recognize the importance of maintaining access to safe abortion care while the appellate process runs its course. But anything is possible.

FEIBEL: But supporters of the law say closing those clinics was meant to make abortion safer.

Emily Horne is with Texas Right to Life.

EMILY HORNE: As was the case when this law was passed, we see this as an improvement to the safety of Texas women. And so as soon as that can be implemented is better.

FEIBEL: People on both sides of the issue who attended the hearing, agreed the case has national implications. Sandy Jones of Houston is with the group Stop Patriarchy.

SANDY JONES: These are forces that are determined to criminalize every abortion, every woman and make it inaccessible for every woman. And birth control as we know is not far behind. This is a war on women. This is a state of emergency.

FEIBEL: It's unclear when the judges will rule. But when they do, the decision will go into effect immediately.

For NPR News, I'm Carrie Feibel in New Orleans. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.

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