Scientists studying the difference between human and chimpanzee DNA have found one stretch of human DNA that can make the brains of mice grow significantly bigger.

"It's likely to be one of many DNA regions that's critical for controlling how the human brain develops," says Debra Silver, a neurobiologist at Duke University Medical School.

The human version of a DNA sequence called HARE5 (inserted into this mouse embryo) turned on a gene that's important for brain development. (Gene activity is stained blue.) By the end of gestation, the embryo's brain was 12 percent larger than the brain of an embryo injected with the chimpanzee version of HARE5.

The human version of a DNA sequence called HARE5 (inserted into this mouse embryo) turned on a gene that's important for brain development. (Gene activity is stained blue.) By the end of gestation, the embryo's brain was 12 percent larger than the brain of an embryo injected with the chimpanzee version of HARE5.

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It could also help explain why human brains are so much bigger than chimp brains, says Silver, who notes that "there are estimates of anywhere from two to four times as big."

In addition to having bigger brains, Silver says, humans also "have more neurons, and we have more connections between these neurons."

Scientists would like to understand what the genetic basis is for humans' apparently special capacity for logic, abstract thought, complex emotions and language. Humans and chimpanzees have DNA that's remarkably similar — researchers say our genetic code is about 95 percent identical. But Silver and some colleagues recently started looking at pieces of DNA that differ markedly between chimps and humans.

"We went through those and picked out ones that seemed to be likely to be regulating gene activity in a developing brain," explains Silver.

One stretch of DNA looked promising because it was near a gene that's known to be involved in brain development. The researchers took the chimp version of this DNA and put it into mouse embryos. They took other mouse embryos and put in the human version.

"What we discovered is that the human DNA turned on gene activity in neural stem cells, and these are cells which produce the neurons of our cerebral cortex," says Silver.

Just before birth, mice with the human DNA had brains that were noticeably larger — about 12 percent bigger than the brains of mice with the chimp DNA, according to a report in the journal Current Biology.

"We were really excited when we saw the bigger brains," Silver says. Her team now wants to know if the mice will behave differently in adulthood. They're also looking for other bits of uniquely human DNA that affect the brain. "We think this is really the tip of the iceberg," she says.

The particular region of DNA they found to be important is in a part of the genetic code that was once called "junk DNA." This is DNA that doesn't code for proteins, so scientists used to think it served no purpose. These days, researchers believe this kind of DNA probably regulates how genes get turned on and off — but what exactly is happening there is still mysterious.

"We have very little scientific information about the actual functions of those regions," says Katie Pollard, who studies human and chimp DNA at the Gladstone Institutes and the University of California, San Francisco.

Most of the genetic differences between humans and chimps are actually found in the so-called junk DNA, Pollard notes. "While it's now pretty easy to find the genetic differences, it's very challenging to figure out exactly whether those differences made a change in a trait, and why."

This new study, says Pollard, "is helping to try to bridge that gap."

She called the bigger brains seen in the mice "intriguing" but said the effect it might have on the animals' cognition would be difficult to predict.

In this field of study, she says, one of the challenges has been that scientists would like to be able to make a genetic change and show that it really makes a difference. "But we're talking about humans and chimpanzees here, and you cannot experiment on either of those," she notes. "And so it's very challenging to prove causation."

In Pollard's lab, scientists are exploring the differences between chimp and human DNA using dishes of cells.

"We can now actually generate the equivalent of embryonic brain cells and tissues that are human or chimpanzee," says Pollard. "And, using genome engineering techniques, we can start to study the effects of switching the human and the chimp sequences in these primate cell lines."

Eventually, work like this could generate a list of DNA sequences that give a brain some capabilities that are characteristically human. That could be important for understanding what goes wrong in diseases of the brain. But could someone use that information to make the brains of a nonhuman species more like us — to create the kind of superchimps that mocked humans in the Planet of the Apes?

"One can never say never, but I think it's a pretty long-shot, far-fetched type concern," says Ruth Faden, who directs the Johns Hopkins Berman Institute of Bioethics.

An experiment like this recent one is not going to create mice that talk and think like people, Faden says. But it could be more ethically worrisome to try to genetically enhance the brains of nonhuman primates or other reasonably intelligent animals — like pigs.

That's something our own species might prefer to avoid, says Faden. "The prospect of, sort of, tearing down the barriers between humans and other nonhuman species in ways that really threaten our sense of ourselves as special is disturbing," she points out.

Even though any possibility like that would be far, far in the future, Faden says it's not too soon to start thinking about it.

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AUDIE CORNISH, HOST:

Humans and chimpanzees have DNA that's remarkably similar. Researchers say the genetic codes are about 95 percent identical. But it's the small part that's different that scientists really care about. In other words, they want to figure out what makes humans special, and NPR's Nell Greenfieldboyce reports scientists have found one chunk of DNA that looks like it's important for building our unique brains.

NELL GREENFIELDBOYCE, BYLINE: Humans have much bigger brains than chimps.

DEBRA SILVER: You know, there are estimates of anywhere from two to four times as big.

GREENFIELDBOYCE: Debra Silver is a biologist who studies brain development at Duke University Medical School.

SILVER: In addition to having bigger brains, we have more neurons and we have more connections between these neurons.

GREENFIELDBOYCE: Silver wants to know what gives us those big brains and ultimately, what's the genetic basis for humans' capacity for logic, abstract thought, language? That's why she and some colleagues recently started looking at pieces of DNA that differ markedly between chimps and humans.

SILVER: And we went through those and picked out ones that seem to be likely to be regulating gene activity in a developing brain.

GREENFIELDBOYCE: One stretch of DNA looked promising because it was near a gene that's known to be involved in brain development. The researchers took the chimp version of this DNA and put it into mouse embryos. They took other mouse embryos and put in the human version. And the result was surprising - fetal mice with the human DNA had brains that were noticeably larger, about 12 percent bigger.

SILVER: We were really excited when we saw the bigger brains.

GREENFIELDBOYCE: Silver says they now want to know if the mice will behave differently in adulthood. She and her colleagues describe these initial results in the journal Current Biology.

SILVER: We think this is really the tip of the iceberg and it's likely to be the one of many DNA regions that's critical for controlling how the human brain develops, and also explaining why our brains are bigger.

GREENFIELDBOYCE: This brain-boosting bit of DNA seemed to turn on genes that made more neurons. And interestingly, it's found in a part of the genetic code that was once called junk DNA because scientists used to think it served no purpose. Studies like this show junk DNA is actually really important, but, it's still pretty mysterious.

KATIE POLLARD: We have very little scientific information about the actual functions of those regions.

GREENFIELDBOYCE: Katie Pollard studies human and chimp DNA at the University of California San Francisco. She says most of the genetic differences between humans and chimps are actually found in the junk DNA.

POLLARD: While it's now pretty easy to find the genetic differences, it's very challenging to figure out exactly whether those differences made a change in a trait and why. And this study is helping to try to bridge that gap.

GREENFIELDBOYCE: Eventually, work like this could generate a list of DNA sequences that give a brain characteristically human capabilities. That could be important for understanding what goes wrong in brain diseases. But, what if someone used that information to try to make the brains of a nonhuman species more like us? Could they make super-chimps that would one day mock us, like in the "Planet Of The Apes?"

(SOUNDBITE OF FILM, "PLANET OF THE APES")

MAURICE EVANS: (As Dr. Zaius) Man has no understanding. He can be taught a few simple tricks, nothing more.

GREENFIELDBOYCE: Ruth Faden is a bioethicist at Johns Hopkins University. She's not too worried about that scenario.

RUTH FADEN: One can never say never, but I think it's a pretty long-shot, far-fetched type concern.

GREENFIELDBOYCE: She says an experiment like this recent is not going to create mice that can talk and think like people. But it could be more ethically worrisome to try to genetically enhance the brains of nonhuman primates or other intelligent animals, like pigs. Faden says that's something our own species might prefer to avoid.

FADEN: The prospect of sort of tearing down the barriers between humans and other nonhuman species in ways that really threaten our sense of ourselves as special is disturbing.

GREENFIELDBOYCE: Any possibility like that would be far, far in the future. Still, Faden says, it's not too soon to start thinking about it. Nell Greenfieldboyce, NPR News. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.

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