For almost a century, explorers have searched the jungles of Honduras for a legendary lost city known as the White City, or the City of the Monkey God.

A team of explorers — including archaeologists and a documentary filmmaker — have just returned from an expedition in person, after using a new technology to search for evidence of ruins by plane.

They believe they have discovered an important ancient city, though the archeologists, including Chris Fisher from Colorado State University, do not think it is the White City of legend (despite some news coverage suggesting otherwise).

"The White City myth is fascinating, but it is just that — it's a myth," he said. "I don't think Ciudad Blanca actually exists."

He does, however, believe that what they found was something special.

He joined Morning Edition's Renee Montagne to discuss what he saw deep in the Mosquitia jungle.


Interview Highlights

On how it was discovered in the first place:

They used a technique called lidar, which uses a grid of infrared beams that are dropped from an aircraft. The beams return to the sensor when they strike an object on the ground — could be the top of a tree, could be a bird. So not only do you record, you know, any archaeological figures that are on the ground — mounds, buildings, et cetera — but you record everything in the forest. And not surprisingly, there were significant archaeological features there.

On what they found:

We found some pretty fantastic artifacts, I think. There was a cache that consisted of 52 objects. So, a group of objects that had been left in place — probably as an offering, although that needs to be determined. They were ground-stone objects.

In Mesoamerica — the adjacent region — and in Latin America in general, one way that you showed your "elite-ness" was by not touching the ground. And so elites would sit on these kind of small thrones or seats. And some of the objects are those kinds of seats. And some of them have figures on them — anthropomorphic figures. One of those is the were-jaguar figure that's shown in National Geographic. There are also giant stone bowls that have carvings ... in relief on the sides. And those were placed in an area that it seems like has not been touched since they were originally left there several centuries ago.

On what he saw:

In that sense, archaeology is kind of a curse for me, because I never see the world as it is — I always imagine the world as it was. I would see a landscape that, for one thing, would not resemble the tropical forest that's there today.

It would be something that is more similar to an English garden, where everywhere you looked you saw evidence of human occupation — whether it was people's houses, or ceremonial spaces, or orchards in agricultural fields.

It would be connected with roads and trails. You'd see the smoke from people's fires. And you would see this incredible human-modified landscape that was probably sustainable for centuries.

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Transcript

RENEE MONTAGNE, HOST:

For nearly a hundred years, explorers have searched the jungles of Honduras for a legendary place - the City of the Monkey God, or the White City. A team including archaeologists and documentary filmmakers went out to look for it. Now archaeologist Chris Fisher says they found something equally fantastic.

CHRIS FISHER: The White City myth is fascinating, but it is just that. It's a myth. What we actually found was a lost city. It's not Ciudad Blanca. I don't think Ciudad Blanca actually exists.

MONTAGNE: Well, OK. So you're not laying claim to something mythical. What you have done, though, is found a city. Before we get into what it is - I mean, this was in one of the most dense rainforests in Central America. How was it discovered in the first place?

FISHER: They used a technique called LIDAR, which uses a grid of infrared beams that are dropped from an aircraft. The beams return to the sensor when they strike an object on the ground - could be the top of a tree, could be a bird. So not only do you record, you know, any archaeological features that are on the ground - mounds, buildings, etc. - but you record everything in the forest. And not surprisingly, there were significant archaeological features there.

MONTAGNE: You know, National Geographic has been part of this expedition. And a handful of photographs that are very intriguing, you know, have been released. Describe for us just a couple of the things that you did see there.

FISHER: We found some pretty fantastic artifacts, I think. There was a cache that consisted of 52 objects - so a group of objects that had been left in place, probably as an offering although that needs to be determined. They were ground stone objects. And in Mesoamerica, the adjacent region, and in Latin America in general, one way that you showed your eliteness was by not touching the ground. And so elites would sit on these kind of small thrones or seats.

And some of the objects are those kinds of seats. And some of them have figures on them - anthropomorphic figures. One of those is the were-jaguar figure that's shown in National Geographic. There are also giant, stone bowls that have carvings in relief on the sides. And those were placed in an area that, it seems like, has not been touched since they were originally left there several centuries ago.

MONTAGNE: If we were to be with you and look around, you're looking at something that to us would look like dense jungle. But to you - you're sort of seeing a world there that we might not see if we were standing next to you. But what are are you seeing?

FISHER: And in that sense, archaeology's kind of a curse for me because I never see the world as it is. I always imagine the world as it was. I would see a landscape that, for one thing, would not resemble the tropical forest that's there today. It would be something that is more similar to an English garden, where everywhere you looked, you saw evidence of human occupation, whether it was people's houses or ceremonial spaces or orchards in agricultural fields. It would be connected with roads and trails. You'd see the smoke from people's fires. And you would see this incredible, human-modified landscape that was probably sustainable for centuries.

MONTAGNE: Chris Fisher is an archaeologist at Colorado State University. Thank you very much for joining us.

FISHER: Thank you so much for having me.

MONTAGNE: And Fisher's part of a team that's discovered the ruins of a lost city in Honduras. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.

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