Can you fight terrorists the same way you battle ordinary criminals?

A prominent Kenyan crime fighter, Mohamud Saleh, is betting you can. He's testing his theory in Garissa, a city in northeastern Kenya thrust into the spotlight this April when Islamist militants attacked a campus dorm, killing 147 students.

Long before Garissa had a terrorism problem, it had a problem with bandits, as Daud Yussuf, a Kenyan journalist, remembers.

Back in 1993, Yussuf was a ninth-grader whose father couldn't afford his school fees. So Daud traveled 60 miles to his uncle to get the money. On the way back home, the bus was hijacked.

"They took all the personal belongings that we had, including my shoes and my school fees," he says. "So banditry was a menace."

Banditry was so bad in northeastern Kenya that it was seen as a separate, lawless region unto itself. It's the area along the Somali border, and its population is mostly ethnic Somali.

But that all began to change, in a near legendary manner, when Saleh was named as the new provincial coordinator. Saleh, who's an ethnic Somali himself, first moved to crack down on police harassment of citizens.

"Harassment was the order of day until Saleh arrived," Yussuf recalls.

Working With The Community

Saleh's initial moves created a spirit of trust, Yussuf says, and that allowed the community to come forward with tips for the police. The international police agency Interpol later praised Garissa specifically, Saleh says.

They called it, "the safest city in east and central Africa," Saleh says proudly.

Saleh was so successful that in 2003 he was named Kenya's ambassador to the United Arab Emirates. After he left, things began to change in Garissa, and in the past few years, it has become a haven for a new kind of criminal: Islamist militants from the Somali-based terror group al-Shabab.

This May, Saleh was brought back to Garissa by Kenya's President Uhuru Kenyatta to use his crime fighting skills against a new enemy. Saleh immediately set a tough deadline for himself.

"I've given myself six months" to eliminate al-Shabab," he says.

Three months in, he had his first major success. In late August, he showed off a cache of weapons that had been captured. They included Russian machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades. He called it the largest weapon stash ever uncovered in Garissa.

A Similar Strategy

Saleh's anti-terror strategy is similar to the one he used previously against ordinary criminals. First you create trust, and then demand that Somali communities point out their own bad guys. He relies on a traditional clan network older than the region's recorded history.

"The clan networks and the elder system ... are highly respected," he says. "If they say we don't want this to happen, it can't happen."

In the past, he says, local clan leaders were seen by the Kenyan government as part of the security problem instead of the key to ending crime and terrorism.

"The problem is that people who are not part of this community, when they are sent here to work, first of all they don't know anything about the cultures here," he says. "And they also have got certain preconceived ideas. Everybody here is a bandit. Or [a member of] al-Shabab."

Saleh gets high marks from local human rights activists. They say he's curbed the roundups and shakedowns by the police.

Their main criticism is that Saleh is not powerful enough — that he runs the local police but not the elite anti-terror police unit, which is based in Nairobi and has been accused of some of the worst abuses.

And it's not yet clear whether traditional clan elders can beat back a well-armed terror group that has its own strong network.

Nevertheless, there hasn't been a single major attack since Saleh assumed his post. And Saleh has pledged that there won't be. Not on his watch.

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Can you fight terrorists the way you fight ordinary criminals? A legendary crime fighter from Kenya is betting on it. He's testing his theory in Garissa, a Kenyan city where Islamist militants attacked a university dorm in April, killing 147 students. As NPR's Gregory Warner reports, long before Garissa had a terrorism problem, it had a problem with bandits.

GREGORY WARNER, BYLINE: Daud Yussuf is a Kenyan journalist, but in 1993, he was a ninth-grader whose father couldn't afford his school fees. So Daud traveled 60-odd miles to his uncle to get the money, and then the bus ride back was hijacked.

DAUD YUSSUF: And they have taken all the personal belongings we've had, including my shoes and the school fees that I had, so banditry was a menace.

WARNER: Banditry was so bad in northeastern Kenya that the whole region was seen as another country. It's the region along the Somali border. Its population is mostly ethnic Somali. And then it's almost the stuff of legend when a new provincial coordinator was hired by the government - Mohamud Saleh. He's from the region. He's ethnically Somali himself. And his first move against the bandits was to crack down on police harassment.

YUSSUF: Harassment has been the order of the day until Saleh arrived.

WARNER: That created a spirit of trust with the community, Yussuf said, that allowed the people to come forward with tips for the police. The International Police Agency - Interpol - later praised Garissa specifically, Saleh says.

MOHAMUD SALEH: The safest city in eastern central Africa.

WARNER: In 2003, Saleh left to become a Kenyan ambassador to the UAE. But in the last few years, Garissa has become a haven for a new kind of criminal - Islamist militants from the Somali-based terror group al-Shabab. And so this May Saleh was brought back by the Kenyan president to use his crime-fighting skills against a new enemy.

SALEH: I've given myself six months.

WARNER: Six months.

SALEH: Yeah, already three months have gone.

WARNER: Six months to be al-Shabab free.

SALEH: Free.

WARNER: Three months in, he's had his first major success. This was recorded in late August. In front of reporters, he showed a captured cache of weapons - Russian machine guns, Chinese explosive triggers.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

SALEH: We have got seven rocket-propelled grenades. You can see them here - RPG.

WARNER: He called it the largest weapon stash ever unearthed in Garissa. But Saleh's anti-terror strategy is similar to one he used a decade ago against non-ideological criminals - first, creating trust and then demanding that Somali communities finger their own bad guys. He relies on a traditional clan network older than the region's recorded history.

SALEH: The clan networks and the elder system - the council of elder system - who are highly respected. If they say we don't want this to happen, it can't happen.

WARNER: In the past, he says, local clan leaders were seen by the Kenyan government as part of the insecurity instead of the key to ending it.

SALEH: The problem is that people from - who are not part of this community, when they are sent here to work - first of all, they don't know anything about the cultures here. And they also have got certain preconceived ideas. Everybody here is a bandit or al-Shabab.

WARNER: Saleh gets high marks from local human rights activists. They say he's curbed the roundups and the shakedowns and pushed his police officers to act proactively. Their main criticism is that Saleh is not powerful enough. He runs the local police, but not the elite anti-terror police unit in Nairobi accused of some of the worst abuses. And it's still not clear if traditional clan elders can beat a well-networked and well-armed terror group. Still, there has not been a single major attack since Saleh assumed his post, and Saleh has pledged that none will be coming - at least not on his watch. Gregory Warner, NPR News, Garissa. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.

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