Friction Among Afghans A Threat To Post-U.S. Mission

Friction Among Afghans A Threat To Post-U.S. Mission

3:48pm Jun 25, 2013
A soldier from the 4th Battalion, 9th Infantry Regiment, Manchus, looks toward the tree line through his rifle scope while on a foot patrol to visit Afghan Local Police in the Panjwai District of Kandahar province in southern Afghanistan. Panjwai is one o
A soldier from the 4th Battalion, 9th Infantry Regiment, Manchus, looks toward the tree line through his rifle scope while on a foot patrol to visit Afghan Local Police in the Panjwai District of Kandahar province in southern Afghanistan. Panjwai is one o
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  • A soldier from the 4th Battalion, 9th Infantry Regiment, Manchus, looks toward the tree line through his rifle scope while on a foot patrol to visit Afghan Local Police in the Panjwai District of Kandahar province in southern Afghanistan. Panjwai is one o

    A soldier from the 4th Battalion, 9th Infantry Regiment, Manchus, looks toward the tree line through his rifle scope while on a foot patrol to visit Afghan Local Police in the Panjwai District of Kandahar province in southern Afghanistan. Panjwai is one o

    David Gilkey / NPR

  • A soldier is careful to follow the line that has been checked for roadside bombs while on a foot patrol in Panjwai. IEDs are a major problem in the area, particularly in areas where Americans have handed responsibility over to Afghan security forces.

    A soldier is careful to follow the line that has been checked for roadside bombs while on a foot patrol in Panjwai. IEDs are a major problem in the area, particularly in areas where Americans have handed responsibility over to Afghan security forces.

    David Gilkey / NPR

  • Soldiers help one another off the mud brick wall of a compound while visiting an Afghan Local Police outpost in Panjwai. As American troops draw down in Afghanistan, they are relying more and more on the Afghans to take over security duties.

    Soldiers help one another off the mud brick wall of a compound while visiting an Afghan Local Police outpost in Panjwai. As American troops draw down in Afghanistan, they are relying more and more on the Afghans to take over security duties.

    David Gilkey / NPR

  • Villagers discuss their grievances with members of the Afghan Local Police and the U.S. military. American soldiers are preparing to hand security responsibilities for the district over to the Afghan army and police. Panjwai is very conservative, and the

    Villagers discuss their grievances with members of the Afghan Local Police and the U.S. military. American soldiers are preparing to hand security responsibilities for the district over to the Afghan army and police. Panjwai is very conservative, and the

    David Gilkey / NPR

  • A member of the Afghan Local Police fears he will be beheaded by the Taliban when the Americans leave the area.

    A member of the Afghan Local Police fears he will be beheaded by the Taliban when the Americans leave the area.

    David Gilkey / NPR

  • The Americans are turning over what one general calls "festering sores," including the birthplace of the Taliban, Panjwai.

    The Americans are turning over what one general calls "festering sores," including the birthplace of the Taliban, Panjwai.

    David Gilkey / NPR

  • A villager visits an Afghan local police outpost in Panjwai. The area is home to pomegranate, grape and wheat farmers, and has traditionally been sympathetic to the Taliban insurgency.

    A villager visits an Afghan local police outpost in Panjwai. The area is home to pomegranate, grape and wheat farmers, and has traditionally been sympathetic to the Taliban insurgency.

    David Gilkey / NPR

  • The horn of Panjwai is still littered with homemade bombs.

    The horn of Panjwai is still littered with homemade bombs.

    David Gilkey / NPR

  • One of two men detained by Afghan National Army soldiers and accused of being bomb-makers. He maintains he is a religious student and not a terrorist.

    One of two men detained by Afghan National Army soldiers and accused of being bomb-makers. He maintains he is a religious student and not a terrorist.

    David Gilkey / NPR

  • An Afghan National Army soldier loads evidence into a plastic bag. The materials, including what appeared to be triggers and IED plans, were found in the vests of two men arrested as Taliban bomb-makers.

    An Afghan National Army soldier loads evidence into a plastic bag. The materials, including what appeared to be triggers and IED plans, were found in the vests of two men arrested as Taliban bomb-makers.

    David Gilkey / NPR

  • A man detained by the Afghan National Army as an accused Taliban bomb-maker stands by as Afghan and American soldiers look through his belongings at Forward Operating Base Zangabad in Panjwai.

    A man detained by the Afghan National Army as an accused Taliban bomb-maker stands by as Afghan and American soldiers look through his belongings at Forward Operating Base Zangabad in Panjwai.

    David Gilkey / NPR

  • When American forces leave the Panjwai area in November, Afghan security forces will have to find a way to work together across the spectrum of local and national forces.

    When American forces leave the Panjwai area in November, Afghan security forces will have to find a way to work together across the spectrum of local and national forces.

    David Gilkey / NPR

  • When American forces leave the Panjwai area in November, Afghan security forces will have to find a way to work together across the spectrum of local and national forces. If they don't, the Taliban will continue to find a safe haven and mount attacks on K

    When American forces leave the Panjwai area in November, Afghan security forces will have to find a way to work together across the spectrum of local and national forces. If they don't, the Taliban will continue to find a safe haven and mount attacks on K

    David Gilkey / NPR

  • Lt. Col. Gary King is the top U.S. trainer working with Afghan National Army in the Panjwai district of Kandahar. He says he's hopeful that if the Afghan leadership can allocate the right resources to the area, a basic stability can be maintained.

    Lt. Col. Gary King is the top U.S. trainer working with Afghan National Army in the Panjwai district of Kandahar. He says he's hopeful that if the Afghan leadership can allocate the right resources to the area, a basic stability can be maintained.

    David Gilkey / NPR

  • Lt. Col. Gary King is the top U.S. trainer working with the Afghan National Army in the Panjwai district of Kandahar. He says he's hopeful that if the Afghan leadership can allocate the right resources to the area, a basic stability can be maintained.

    Lt. Col. Gary King is the top U.S. trainer working with the Afghan National Army in the Panjwai district of Kandahar. He says he's hopeful that if the Afghan leadership can allocate the right resources to the area, a basic stability can be maintained.

    David Gilkey / NPR

  • A soldier from the 4th Battalion, 9th Infantry Regiment, Manchus, looks toward the tree line through his rifle scope while on a foot patrol to visit Afghan Local Police in the Panjwai District of Kandahar province in southern Afghanistan. Panjwai is one of the most dangerous districts in Afghanistan.
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    A soldier from the 4th Battalion, 9th Infantry Regiment, Manchus, looks toward the tree line through his rifle scope while on a foot patrol to visit Afghan Local Police in the Panjwai District of Kandahar province in southern Afghanistan. Panjwai is one of the most dangerous districts in Afghanistan.
    David Gilkey/NPR
  • A soldier is careful to follow the line that has been checked for roadside bombs while on a foot patrol in Panjwai. IEDs are a major problem in the area, particularly in areas where Americans have handed responsibility over to Afghan security forces.
    Hide caption
    A soldier is careful to follow the line that has been checked for roadside bombs while on a foot patrol in Panjwai. IEDs are a major problem in the area, particularly in areas where Americans have handed responsibility over to Afghan security forces.
    David Gilkey/NPR
  • Soldiers help one another off the mud brick wall of a compound while visiting an Afghan Local Police outpost in Panjwai. As American troops draw down in Afghanistan, they are relying more and more on the Afghans to take over security duties.
    Hide caption
    Soldiers help one another off the mud brick wall of a compound while visiting an Afghan Local Police outpost in Panjwai. As American troops draw down in Afghanistan, they are relying more and more on the Afghans to take over security duties.
    David Gilkey/NPR
  • Villagers discuss their grievances with members of the Afghan Local Police and the U.S. military. American soldiers are preparing to hand security responsibilities for the district over to the Afghan army and police. Panjwai is very conservative, and the Taliban use it as a place to organize fighters for attacks against international forces.
    Hide caption
    Villagers discuss their grievances with members of the Afghan Local Police and the U.S. military. American soldiers are preparing to hand security responsibilities for the district over to the Afghan army and police. Panjwai is very conservative, and the Taliban use it as a place to organize fighters for attacks against international forces.
    David Gilkey/NPR
  • A member of the Afghan Local Police fears he will be beheaded by the Taliban when the Americans leave the area.
    Hide caption
    A member of the Afghan Local Police fears he will be beheaded by the Taliban when the Americans leave the area.
    David Gilkey/NPR
  • The Americans are turning over what one general calls
    Hide caption
    The Americans are turning over what one general calls "festering sores," including the birthplace of the Taliban, Panjwai.
    David Gilkey/NPR
  • A villager visits an Afghan local police outpost in Panjwai. The area is home to pomegranate, grape and wheat farmers, and has traditionally been sympathetic to the Taliban insurgency.
    Hide caption
    A villager visits an Afghan local police outpost in Panjwai. The area is home to pomegranate, grape and wheat farmers, and has traditionally been sympathetic to the Taliban insurgency.
    David Gilkey/NPR
  • The horn of Panjwai is still littered with homemade bombs.
    Hide caption
    The horn of Panjwai is still littered with homemade bombs.
    David Gilkey/NPR
  • One of two men detained by Afghan National Army soldiers and accused of being bomb-makers. He maintains he is a religious student and not a terrorist.
    Hide caption
    One of two men detained by Afghan National Army soldiers and accused of being bomb-makers. He maintains he is a religious student and not a terrorist.
    David Gilkey/NPR
  • An Afghan National Army soldier loads evidence into a plastic bag. The materials, including what appeared to be triggers and IED plans, were found in the vests of two men arrested as Taliban bomb-makers.
    Hide caption
    An Afghan National Army soldier loads evidence into a plastic bag. The materials, including what appeared to be triggers and IED plans, were found in the vests of two men arrested as Taliban bomb-makers.
    David Gilkey/NPR
  • A man detained by the Afghan National Army as an accused Taliban bomb-maker stands by as Afghan and American soldiers look through his belongings at Forward Operating Base Zangabad in Panjwai.
    Hide caption
    A man detained by the Afghan National Army as an accused Taliban bomb-maker stands by as Afghan and American soldiers look through his belongings at Forward Operating Base Zangabad in Panjwai.
    David Gilkey/NPR
  • When American forces leave the Panjwai area in November, Afghan security forces will have to find a way to work together across the spectrum of local and national forces.
    Hide caption
    When American forces leave the Panjwai area in November, Afghan security forces will have to find a way to work together across the spectrum of local and national forces.
    David Gilkey/NPR

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The Afghan farmer in Panjwai District, outside the southern city of Kandahar, is finally fed up with the Taliban.

His name is Abdullah Razik. He's slight, with a trim beard and a dark green shirt that falls below his knees.

The Taliban plant roadside bombs in his fields, he says, and shoot near his house. The area is one of the most dangerous in Afghanistan — the birthplace of the Taliban.

Not long ago, something worse happened, Razik says.

"My friend ... lost his hand," he says. "The Taliban were putting IEDs in my village" four months ago.

His friend Ahmed stands next to him and pulls up a dingy white sleeve to reveal a smooth and rounded stump.

Now Razik is among a dozen villagers here — outside Kandahar City — who patrol with an armed neighborhood watch called the Afghan Local Police. It's the first line of defense against the Taliban. But he says his group doesn't get any support from the Afghan National Army, which is supposed to be its partner.

"They're just working over here to get paid," he says. "They don't care about the people."

That lack of cooperation is a problem because when the Americans leave here in November, Afghan security forces will have to find a way to work together, especially with those who live around here. And if they don't, the Taliban will continue to infiltrate the villages and mount attacks on Kandahar, the country's second-largest city.

After visiting Abdullah and the other local police, Capt. Daniel Mitchell leads a patrol back to the nearby American base.

He says there's "definitely some friction between the different pillars" of Afghan security.

Lt. Col. Gary King is the top U.S. trainer working with the Afghan National Army in the Panjwai district of Kandahar. He says he's hopeful that if the Afghan leadership can allocate the right resources to the area, a basic stability can be maintained.

Lt. Col. Gary King is the top U.S. trainer working with the Afghan National Army in the Panjwai district of Kandahar. He says he's hopeful that if the Afghan leadership can allocate the right resources to the area, a basic stability can be maintained.

David Gilkey/NPR

What that means for the future is very much on the mind of the officer whose job it is to train the Afghan National Army, Lt. Col. Gary King.

"From my perspective, the biggest thing is that the ANA totally distrusts the ALP — you know, they're just a bunch of thugs," he says.

King works out of an unpainted plywood building here — it's the nicest part of the small American base. He's frustrated: The Afghan forces don't cooperate. They don't have the best officers. Their top general doesn't visit often enough. Supplies are hard to come by.

"This is the most lethal area. This is the main effort area, but the ANA don't treat it that way," he says. "And I'm not the only guy saying this. They've given us the least competent kandak leader here, to hold the most lethal kinetic area in all of Kandahar."

King says the kandak, Pashto for battalion, has been in the fight in Panjwai for nearly six years, and it needs to be switched out. The Americans suspect some Afghan soldiers at remote outposts are making truces with the Taliban. The colonel says he worries what's going to happen here.

"There's a chance, though, if they don't get anything, it's going to be Escape From New York," he says.

The 1980s action movie starring Kurt Russell is about a futuristic New York City, with savage gangs roaming its streets. That analogy makes sense in Panjwai, this key, troubled district near Kandahar.

"There's just bad guys in there, but as long as they kind of stay in there, things won't be too bad," King says.

In areas where the Americans have left, insurgents have moved in and targeted the Afghans who remain.

Helicopters beat overhead to protect U.S. soldiers on patrol, heading to the Afghan Local Police checkpoint. The Americans and Afghans have set up a long line of checkpoints, trying to hold back the Taliban tide. And if the worst happens, Razik, the ALP policeman who has withstood Taliban threats and gunfire, says he will flee the area where he was born and raised.

"I will leave," he says. "I will leave this area."

The Taliban haven't swept through this area just yet. At the Afghan army battalion headquarters, separated from the American base by a line of concrete walls and razor wire, troops are interrogating two suspected Taliban fighters. Spread out on a blanket are the contents of their pockets: cellphones, ID cards and a thatch of wires police say would be used as triggers of a roadside bomb.

The stash includes two pieces of paper, with scribbled lines and crude drawings of what looks like wires connected to batteries. A translator says they're bomb-making instructions. One of the suspected Taliban has a small welt on his forehead and a crease of dried blood that runs down his nose. I ask him if he's Taliban.

Speaking through a translator, he replies that he's a student who was passing through the area. He says someone put the bomb-making instructions in his pocket. The translator laughs, but the Afghan commander, who stands nearby, doesn't join in. He knows this is serious business, that more Taliban will be coming.

When asked if he can handle all this when the Americans leave, he replies: "We're Afghan. I'm a soldier of my country, and I will stand against them and defend my family and country whatever it costs me — even my life."

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Transcript

RENEE MONTAGNE, HOST:

Here is a simple reality of the war in Afghanistan: U.S. and international troops will be leaving; by this time next year, there will be only half as many American forces as there are today. Those that remain will be mostly trainers, along with some special forces.

And these forces cannot be everywhere - which has huge implications for the place we're about to visit. It's Panjwai District, outside the southern city of Kandahar, the birthplace of the Taliban. It's one of the most dangerous areas in Afghanistan. NPR's Tom Bowman just visited Panjwai, and brings us this glimpse of what the future could hold there.

TOM BOWMAN, BYLINE: The Afghan farmer is finally fed up with the Taliban. His name is Abdullah Razik. He's slight with a trim beard, and a dark-green shirt that falls below his knees. The Taliban plant roadside bombs in his fields, he says, and shoot near his house. Then, not long ago, something worse happened.

ABDULLAH RAZIK: (Through translator) You see this, my friend also, he lost, you know, his hand.

BOWMAN: Lost his hand?

RAZIK: Yes, because of the Taliban IED.

BOWMAN: When did that happen?

RAZIK: (Through translator) Four months ago.

BOWMAN: His friend Ahmed stands next to him, and pulls up a dingy white sleeve to reveal a smooth and rounded stump. Now, Abdullah is among a dozen villagers here, outside Kandahar City, who patrol with an armed neighborhood watch called the Afghan Local Police. It's the first line of defense against the Taliban. But Abdullah says his group doesn't get any support from the Afghan military, who are supposed to be his partners.

RAZIK: (Through translator) They're just working over here to get paid. They don't care about, you know, our people.

BOWMAN: That lack of cooperation is a problem because when the Americans leave here in November, the Afghan security forces will have to find a way to work together, especially with those who live around here. And if they don't, the Taliban will continue to infiltrate the villages and mount attacks on Kandahar, the country's second-largest city.

After visiting Abdullah and the other police, Capt. Daniel Mitchell leads a patrol back to the nearby American base.

CAPT. DANIEL MITCHELL: Yeah, there's some definite friction between the different pillars.

BOWMAN: So what does that mean for the future, if they can't work together?

MITCHELL: It's - a good question.

BOWMAN: It's a question very much on the mind of the officer whose job it is to train the Afghan National Army, Lt. Col. Gary King.

LT. COL. GARY KING: From my perspective, the biggest thing - from being an ANA adviser - is the fact that ANA totally distrusts the ALP, totally distrusts them; you know, they're just a bunch of thugs.

BOWMAN: Col. King works out of an unpainted plywood building here. It's the nicest part of the small American base. And he's frustrated. The Afghan forces don't cooperate. They don't have the best officers. Their top general doesn't visit often enough. Supplies are hard to come by.

KING: This is the most lethal area. This is the main effort area, but the ANA don't treat it that way. You know, I'm not the only guy saying this. They've given us the least competent Kandak leader here; to hold the most lethal, kinetic area in all of Kandahar.

BOWMAN: Col. King says the Kandak, which is Pashto for battalion, has been in the fight in Panjwai for nearly six years, and they need to be switched out. The Americans suspect some Afghan soldiers at remote outposts are making truces with the Taliban - you don't shoot me, I won't shoot you. The colonel worries what's going to happen here.

KING: There's a chance, though, if they don't get anything, it's going to be "Escape from New York" - you know, the Kurt Russell movie.

BOWMAN: You might remember "Escape From New York," a 1982 action movie about a futuristic New York City, with savage gangs roaming its streets. [POST-BROADCAST CORRECTION: "Escape From New York" was released in 1981, not 1982.]

(SOUNDBITE OF FILM, "ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK" )

UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: (As narrator) New York, 1997. The entire city is a walled, maximum-security prison. The bridges are mined, the rivers are patrolled, and the United States police force has everything under control - they think.

BOWMAN: That movie analogy makes sense in Panjwai, this key, troubled district near Kandahar.

KING: There's just bad guys in there, but as long as they kind of stay in there, then things won't be too bad.

BOWMAN: Because in the areas where the Americans have left, insurgents have moved in, targeting the Afghans who remain.

(SOUNDBITE OF HELICOPTER)

BOWMAN: Helicopters beat overhead to protect American soldiers on patrol, heading to the Afghan Local Police checkpoint. The Americans and Afghans have set up a long line of checkpoints, trying to hold back the Taliban tide. And if the worst happens, Abdullah Razik, the ALP policeman who has withstood Taliban threats and gunfire, says he will flee the area where he was born and raised.

RAZIK: (Through translator) Is this - my own opinion. I will be be leaving - after American leave over here.

BOWMAN: The Taliban haven't swept through this area just yet. At the Afghan army battalion headquarters, separated from the American base by a line of concrete walls and razor wire, troops are interrogating two suspected Taliban fighters. Spread out on a blanket are the contents of their pockets: cellphones and ID cards, and a thatch of wires police say would be used as triggers on a roadside bomb.

So this is a remote control?

MITCHELL: Wires and stuff.

BOWMAN: The stash includes a piece of paper, with scribbled lines and crude drawings on both sides of what looks like wires connected to batteries. A translator says they're bomb-making instructions.

UNIDENTIFIED TRANSLATOR: Here we have the IED. These are instructions of IED, how to make an IED.

BOWMAN: One of the suspected insurgents has a small welt on his forehead, and a crease of dried blood that runs down his nose. I asked him if he is a Taliban.

UNIDENTIFIED TRANSLATOR: He says he doesn't accept, you know, he's a Talib. He says, no, I'm a mullah.

BOWMAN: Why did he have instructions about how to make a roadside bomb?

UNIDENTIFIED TRANSLATOR: He says was passing here. Somebody put it in my pocket, I don't know.

(LAUGHTER)

BOWMAN: The Afghan commander stands nearby. He doesn't join in the laughter. He knows this is serious business, that more Taliban will be coming. Can he handle all this when the Americans leave?

UNIDENTIFIED AFGHAN COMMANDER: (Through translator) We are Afghan. I'm a soldier of this country. I got to stand, you know, against them and defend our family, our country. So whatever it costs me - even my life - but I will stand.

BOWMAN: What's still uncertain, though, is whether the Afghans will all stand together.

Tom Bowman, NPR News, Kandahar Province, Afghanistan.

MONTAGNE: And to see photos from Panjwai District, visit NPR.org. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.

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