At the National Museum of the U.S. Air Force in Dayton, Ohio, a looping video shows off C-123 planes — aircraft used to spray the chemical defoliant Agent Orange and pesticides during the Vietnam War.

The only actual C-123 you can still see here, nicknamed "Patches," has been on display inside this big hangar since the mid-1990s, when it was decontaminated. It's a wide, clunky-looking cargo plane.

"They're big and slow, and they're extremely noisy," says Ed Kienle, laughing. For most of the 1970s, he was a flight mechanic on a plane just like Patches at Rickenbacker Air Force Base in Columbus. "We know that most of the airplanes we flew had done duty in Vietnam."

An unknown number of U.S. troops and Vietnamese civilians were exposed to Agent Orange, the chemical defoliant the U.S. used in Vietnam. And it turns out that some Air Force reservists may also have been exposed to the chemical after the war — not in Vietnam, but in the U.S.

That's because the planes used to spray Agent Orange were used for another decade by the Air Force reserves at Rickenbacker, the Westover Air Reserve Base in Massachusetts and the Pittsburgh Air Reserve Station. Vets who worked in those planes have been pushing the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs for recognition — and they're starting to get it.

'These Health Issues Start Popping Up'

Back during the war, the issues with Agent Orange hadn't all come to light. When the planes returned to the United States in 1971, guys like Kienle flew long missions for years in close contact with leftover chemical residues.

"We knew it was pretty nasty," he says. "The plane smelled bad. But you really weren't that concerned about it at the time — until later on, after you're retired, and these health issues start popping up."

Kienle was one of as many as 2,100 people who crewed on the C-123s here in the U.S., although there's no official count. Now lots of the folks who worked on the planes have health problems that the VA concedes have been associated with Agent Orange: diseases like prostate cancer, non-Hodgkin lymphoma or diabetes.

But it's hard to show cause and effect in a lot of these cases. Because of that, vets who were in Vietnam and have health problems that could be associated with Agent Orange can get benefits based on just the possibility they were exposed. The VA offers disability compensation and money for survivors of the deceased.

But as of now, almost all benefits claims related to Agent Orange for C-123 reservists have been denied.

'We're A Learning Organization'

Jeanne Stellman, a public health professor who has done extensive research on Agent Orange at Columbia University, worked on an article published last year in the journal Environmental Research that blasts the VA for ignoring the science.

"It seemed to us to be a total no-brainer that there was exposure possible," she says.

Since 2011, a growing group of reservists and their families has been calling for the VA to recognize C-123 vets. A study released in January, commissioned by the VA, confirms that many reservists very likely were exposed.

Dr. Ralph Erickson, a VA health expert, says a task force will make recommendations to the VA secretary within months on next steps.

"I think we're a learning organization, we're able to make the adjustments that are necessary, and we're basically moving forward at this point," Erickson says.

For Barbara Carson, it feels like too little, too late. Her husband, who worked on a C-123 at Rickenbacker, died of non-Hodgkin lymphoma at age 54. Years later, she filed a claim with the VA for survivors benefits linked to Agent Orange exposure. That claim was denied, a ruling she is appealing.

She says it's frustrating because if her husband had been on the ground in Vietnam, she'd be eligible for benefits owing to the presumption of exposure.

"I guess I was naive enough to believe that they would've been responsible in their reaction," Carson says.

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Transcript

KELLY MCEVERS, HOST:

During the Vietnam War, an unknown number of American troops and Vietnamese civilians were exposed to Agent Orange - that's the chemical defoliant the U.S. used in Vietnam. It turns out Air Force reservists in some U.S. states may have also been exposed to the chemical. That's because the planes used to spread Agent Orange were used again for another decade by the Air Force reserves in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Massachusetts. From member station WYSO in Yellow Springs, Ohio, Lewis Wallace reports that this group of vets is pushing the VA for recognition and starting to get it.

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LEWIS WALLACE, BYLINE: A video on loop at the National Museum of the U.S. Air Force in Dayton shows off C-123 planes. These were used to spray Agent Orange and pesticides during the Vietnam War. The only one you can still see, nicknamed Patches, has been on display inside this big hangar since the mid-90s when it was decontaminated. It's a wide, clunky-looking cargo plane.

ED KIENLE: Well, they're big and slow (laughter), and they're extremely noisy.

WALLACE: That's Ed Kienle who was a flight mechanic for most of the '70s on a plane just like Patches at Rickenbacker Air Force Base in Columbus.

KIENLE: We knew that most of the airplanes that we flew had done duty in Vietnam.

WALLACE: Back then, the issues with Agent Orange hadn't all come to light. For years, guys like Ed Kienle flew long missions in close contact with leftover chemical residues. He was one of an estimated 2,000 people who crewed on those planes here in the U.S.

KIENLE: Well, we knew it was pretty nasty. The plane smelled bad, but, you know, you really weren't that concerned about it at the time. Until later on, you know, after you retire and these health issues start popping up.

WALLACE: Now lots of the folks who flew C-123s have health problems that the VA concedes have been associated with Agent Orange - diseases like prostate cancer, non-Hodgkin lymphoma or diabetes. But it's hard to show cause and effect in a lot of these cases. Because of that, vets who were in Vietnam and have health problems that could be associated with Agent Orange can get benefits based on just the possibility they were exposed.

The VA offers disability compensation and money for survivors of the deceased. But as of now, almost all benefits claims related to Agent Orange for C-123 reservists have been denied. Dr. Jeanne Stellman is an Agent Orange expert at Columbia University. She worked on an article published last year that blasts the VA for ignoring the science.

JEANNE STELLMAN: It seemed to us to be a total no-brainer that there was exposure possible.

WALLACE: Since 2011, a growing group of reservists and their families have been calling for the VA to recognize C-123 vets. A study out in January commissioned by the VA confirms that many reservists were likely exposed. Dr. Ralph Erickson is a VA health expert.

RALPH ERICKSON: I think we're a learning organization. We're able to make the adjustments that are necessary, and we're basically moving forward at this point.

WALLACE: Erickson says a task force will make recommendations to the VA secretary on next steps within months. For Barbara Carson, it feels like too little too late. Her husband, who worked on a C-123 at Rickenbacker, died of non-Hodgkin lymphoma at age 54. Years later she filed a claim with the VA for survivors benefits linked to Agent Orange exposure. That claim was denied.

BARBARA CARSON: I guess I was naive enough to believe that they would have been responsible in their reaction.

WALLACE: She says it's frustrating because if her husband had been on the ground in Vietnam she'd be eligible for benefits because of the presumption of exposure. For NPR News, I'm Lewis Wallace. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.

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